Welcome Whether it's your first Bonnaroo or you’re a music festival veteran, we welcome you to Inforoo. Here you'll find info about artists, rumors, camping tips, and the infamous Roo Clues. Have a look around then create an account and join in the fun. See you at Bonnaroo!! Sincerely, | '; menuLi.removeChild(oldA); menuLi.appendChild(newA); } } } }welcome.style.display = "none";welcome.style.display = "none"; | Post by Silver Surfer on Mar 11, 2022 16:35:37 GMT -5Scored 2 tix for Phoebe in ATL! Was trying for St Aug which is much closer to me, but the website was being stupid and my lady preferred Friday. Silver Surfer wanna hang out after? I believe that night is my sister's graduation so depends on that- probably at least can get some lunch if you're in that day?
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| theeimportance
Showerless Shakedown Vendor
 Joined: October 2010
Posts: 2,499 | Post by theeimportance on Mar 11, 2022 18:46:32 GMT -5It's obviously a complicated topic but there is a time and place for platinum tickets. And I don't know that it's artist greed as much as it is control. Artists like Pearl Jam who have very sizeable fan clubs should not be putting prime seats at exorbitant prices. But an artist who is just dumping seats into a general onsale - it's tough to put that third row seat into the public onsale because you know it's not Charlie Bucket who's going to get the golden ticket, it's a reseller who's going to charge $500 anyway. I guess I was lucky that I didn't have to deal with it pre-Covid (was it even a prominent thing pre-Covid?) but seeing literally the last row in an arena marked as Platinum tickets for Paul McCartney was both crazy and un-surprising. | Lollapalooza: 2010
Bonnaroo: 2011, 2013
Coachella: 2013 (w2), 2017 (w2), 2023 (w1)
Boston Calling: 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Governors Ball: 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Primavera Sound: 2015, 2022 (w2)
Panorama: 2016, 2017
The Meadows: 2016
III Points: 2016
Pitchfork: 2018, 2019
Pickathon: 2018
Wide Awake: 2022 |
| | Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Mar 11, 2022 19:23:07 GMT -5Not even sure how much control artists have over it, it seems like Ticketmaster just makes x% of tickets platinum and charges as much as they can for them. I was watching the Phish ons sale for a while and was literally watching regular tickets turn into platinum and triple in price over the course of like 15 minutes. | |
| | Post by supЯefan on Mar 12, 2022 13:56:35 GMT -5Not even sure how much control artists have over it, it seems like Ticketmaster just makes x% of tickets platinum and charges as much as they can for them. I was watching the Phish ons sale for a while and was literally watching regular tickets turn into platinum and triple in price over the course of like 15 minutes. They can tell LN whether they want platinum or not. Longtime friend who works for LN at a venue box office has told me that there have been onsales he was monitoring and was then instructed by artists management to turn the feature on because they forgot to include it in their instructions when the show was being built ahead of time. Artists dont care or realize how much of an issue its becoming during onsales. There was one occasion when this was brought to the attention of the artist and their management where they pretty much were all smiles and did not hesitate to implement it. Madonna on that theater tour she did a few years ago. As soon as they found out it meant more money towards them they were all in. | |
| | Post by Fozzie Bear on Mar 12, 2022 14:01:07 GMT -5I know Foo Fighters never has platinum, VIP, nor resale enabled tickets. I don’t blame the artists as much as their management, touring agencies, etc. |
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| | Post by snoke on Mar 12, 2022 14:12:02 GMT -5I do think that as much as the artists love money, the real kicker is how much they hate other people making money off their name. So in some ways its easier to reconcile Platinum if it means the price gouging is transparent instead of a bot getting tickets and putting them on Stubhub immediately. | |
| | Post by dreadpirateroberts on Mar 12, 2022 14:33:46 GMT -5Airfare booked for Rage. This damn show better happen. What show are you going to? | Upcoming: 7/13: elrow
7/20: Mt. Joy
7/28: Justice
7/31: Romy
8/2: The Marias?
8/18: Mitski?
8/19: Taylor Swift
8/23: Crumb?
9/5: L'Impératrice
9/7: Bruce Springsteen?
9/12: Pearl Jam?
9/21: HFStival (?)
9/23: Khruangbin
9/26: Charli XCX/Troye Sivan?
9/28-9/29: All Things Go
9/30: Vampire Weekend
10/3: MMJ?
10/11-12: ACL |
| | Post by Druid on Mar 12, 2022 20:48:56 GMT -5Airfare booked for Rage. This damn show better happen. What show are you going to? Raleigh | I think mods should release the internal poster tier ranking doc |
| | Post by Jim on Mar 12, 2022 21:19:08 GMT -5Anyone want to buy these Spiritualized Denver tickets off me? April 4th at Ogden. Not gonna be able to make it out there unfortunately. I'll eat the fees and give them to one of y'all for face ($45) | Last Edit: Mar 12, 2022 21:22:08 GMT -5 by Jim - Back to Top DONT GET THE MACARONI IF YOU WANNA LIVE THROUGHT THE NIGHT |
| | Post by supЯefan on Mar 13, 2022 17:15:13 GMT -5I know Foo Fighters never has platinum, VIP, nor resale enabled tickets. I don’t blame the artists as much as their management, touring agencies, etc. It still falls on the artists to be involved with that process. I dont know why it fell by the wayside where there used to be a bunch of small ticketing agencies that did direct presales for artists and now its really rare for that to even happen anymore. | |
| | Post by ameeps on Mar 13, 2022 17:53:42 GMT -5I know Foo Fighters never has platinum, VIP, nor resale enabled tickets. I don’t blame the artists as much as their management, touring agencies, etc. It still falls on the artists to be involved with that process. I dont know why it fell by the wayside where there used to be a bunch of small ticketing agencies that did direct presales for artists and now its really rare for that to even happen anymore. What happened was a concerted effort by Ticketmaster/Livenation to abuse its dominant market position and buy or destroy the competition. -Songkick (which previously merged with Crowdsurge)
Ticketmaster hired a former Songkick executive who then hacked into Songkick’s system to get info on pending or future artist contracts and used that info to ensure none of the artists signed with Songkick. They choked out Songkick’s business, and the company eventually ran out of money and had to shut down. WMG bought the concert discovery piece of Songkick out of bankruptcy. TM/LN paid a $10 million fine to avoid prosecution related to the hacking. -Ticketstoday
Acquired by TM/LN Musictoday
-Acquired by TM/LN -Frontgate
Acquired by TM/LN -Seated
Still independent. Pre COVID they sold a lot of presale tickets direct. These days they sell the occasional direct ticket but mostly just link to presales on the primary ticketing site. There are no independent presale ticketing agencies left with any scale. And it’s too difficult for a new one to gain any serious traction, because artists know it’s too risky to get on TM/LN’s bad side. A handful of artists like Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam and Phish have fan club based presale programs, but in recent years many of those have shifted over to TM/LN owned platforms. Phish now runs on top of Ticketstoday. Eddie Vedder’s latest tour used Ticketmaster Verified Fan and Ticketstoday. The government really f*cked up by allowing the Ticketmaster Livenation merger. | |
| | Post by ameeps on Mar 14, 2022 2:00:09 GMT -5Arcade Fire playing the 350 capacity Toulouse Theatre in New Orleans today at 7:30 PM. Pay what you can, one ticket per person available at the venue starting at 10AM, all proceeds support Ukraine.
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| | Post by Vieux on Mar 14, 2022 6:55:18 GMT -5Damn. There is no way I can make that happen with my stupid work schedule.
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| | Post by Nathan Fieldcяab on Mar 14, 2022 9:11:11 GMT -5In for night 2 of Billy Strings in Indianapolis | Big Ears 22, 23, 24 / Bonnaroo 15, 16, 19 / Kilby Block Party 24 / Lollapalooza 17 / Osheaga 18 / Panorama 17 / Pitchfork 16, 21 / THING 22 1st: Music League 23 / 2nd: Fest Draft 6
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| | Post by theo on Mar 14, 2022 9:44:42 GMT -5It still falls on the artists to be involved with that process. I dont know why it fell by the wayside where there used to be a bunch of small ticketing agencies that did direct presales for artists and now its really rare for that to even happen anymore. What happened was a concerted effort by Ticketmaster/Livenation to abuse its dominant market position and buy or destroy the competition. -Songkick (which previously merged with Crowdsurge)
Ticketmaster hired a former Songkick executive who then hacked into Songkick’s system to get info on pending or future artist contracts and used that info to ensure none of the artists signed with Songkick. They choked out Songkick’s business, and the company eventually ran out of money and had to shut down. WMG bought the concert discovery piece of Songkick out of bankruptcy. TM/LN paid a $10 million fine to avoid prosecution related to the hacking. -Ticketstoday
Acquired by TM/LN Musictoday
-Acquired by TM/LN -Frontgate
Acquired by TM/LN -Seated
Still independent. Pre COVID they sold a lot of presale tickets direct. These days they sell the occasional direct ticket but mostly just link to presales on the primary ticketing site. There are no independent presale ticketing agencies left with any scale. And it’s too difficult for a new one to gain any serious traction, because artists know it’s too risky to get on TM/LN’s bad side. A handful of artists like Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam and Phish have fan club based presale programs, but in recent years many of those have shifted over to TM/LN owned platforms. Phish now runs on top of Ticketstoday. Eddie Vedder’s latest tour used Ticketmaster Verified Fan and Ticketstoday. The government really f*cked up by allowing the Ticketmaster Livenation merger. funny timing, this just released | |
| | Post by gocatsnu on Mar 14, 2022 10:03:06 GMT -5Not even sure how much control artists have over it, it seems like Ticketmaster just makes x% of tickets platinum and charges as much as they can for them. I was watching the Phish ons sale for a while and was literally watching regular tickets turn into platinum and triple in price over the course of like 15 minutes. I get why people get frustrated by this, but it's just a function of the market, not Ticketmaster. Its either them or third-party scalpers making the money. Olivia Rodrigo went no platinum tickets for her tour and if I had to bet, the secondary market will make more profit on those shows than Olivia will make in revenue, let alone profit. | |
| | Post by supЯefan on Mar 14, 2022 10:09:10 GMT -5Not even sure how much control artists have over it, it seems like Ticketmaster just makes x% of tickets platinum and charges as much as they can for them. I was watching the Phish ons sale for a while and was literally watching regular tickets turn into platinum and triple in price over the course of like 15 minutes. I get why people get frustrated by this, but it's just a function of the market, not Ticketmaster. Its either them or third-party scalpers making the money. Olivia Rodrigo went no platinum tickets for her tour and if I had to bet, the secondary market will make more profit on those shows than Olivia will make in revenue, let alone profit. No platinum you say? It was very platinum. Its just there are barely any tickets at any shows cause the kids paid.
It still falls on the artists to be involved with that process. I dont know why it fell by the wayside where there used to be a bunch of small ticketing agencies that did direct presales for artists and now its really rare for that to even happen anymore. [br. The government really f*cked up by allowing the Ticketmaster Livenation merger. Sandbag still exists but its pretty much Radioheads thing to use at their disposal since they created it. Artists just use the merch end of it mostly now.
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| | Post by hoffm83n on Mar 14, 2022 10:11:12 GMT -5resident advisor, dice and ticketswap are resale models that should be celebrated. axs is a bit better than ticketmaster but too many people running venues are forced into big name distributors due to pre existing conditions, what they think will help them survive or pure greed. | |
| | Post by gocatsnu on Mar 14, 2022 10:13:11 GMT -5I get why people get frustrated by this, but it's just a function of the market, not Ticketmaster. Its either them or third-party scalpers making the money. Olivia Rodrigo went no platinum tickets for her tour and if I had to bet, the secondary market will make more profit on those shows than Olivia will make in revenue, let alone profit. No platinum you say? It was very platinum. Its just there are barely any tickets at any shows cause the kids paid.
interesting all of the venues within driving distance of me just show "sold out" | |
| | Post by gocatsnu on Mar 14, 2022 10:23:24 GMT -5resident advisor, dice and ticketswap are resale models that should be celebrated. axs is a bit better than ticketmaster but too many people running venues are forced into big name distributors due to pre existing conditions, what they think will help them survive or pure greed. I mean, this is all a matter of what you value. I wanted to go to a sold-out show that used Dice and didn't allow transfers, and I was unable to go at all, but I would have gotten in if this was an AXS or Ticketmaster show. | |
| | Post by esteban on Mar 14, 2022 10:46:29 GMT -5Arcade Fire playing the 350 capacity Toulouse Theatre in New Orleans today at 7:30 PM. Pay what you can, one ticket per person available at the venue starting at 10AM, all proceeds support Ukraine. sh*t. I wish I’d have seen this an hour earlier. I took the 3/4 mile walk to Toulouse and the line was already around the corner. No way to make it happen. :crying: and I’m not even the biggest fan. But this would have been a show to see. | 2024: The Floozies, Phyphr, Disco Biscuits, Cimafunk, WSMFP, The Killers, Cory Wong, Dumpstaphunk, Bomba Estereo, Molly & Golden Hwy, Big Freedia, Payton/Nth Power, A.P&TFN, Mule, Stones, FF, e-collective, Lettuce, NY&CH, Groupo Niche, Mariachi Jalisco, Orleans Ave, EW&F, Jacob Collier, SAXKIX, Nik West, Naughty Prof, GZA, Lez Zep, Afroman |
| | Post by Vieux on Mar 14, 2022 10:59:52 GMT -5Arcade Fire playing the 350 capacity Toulouse Theatre in New Orleans today at 7:30 PM. Pay what you can, one ticket per person available at the venue starting at 10AM, all proceeds support Ukraine. sh*t. I wish I’d have seen this an hour earlier. I took the 3/4 mile walk to Toulouse and the line was already around the corner. No way to make it happen. :crying: and I’m not even the biggest fan. But this would have been a show to see. Preservation Hall must be loving that they acquired One Eyed Jacks across the street from them. I am glad that OEJ was able to acquire the old Margaritaville/BB King Blues location but man I loved shows at "Toulouse Theatre." Hopefully they continue having live music there and not just last minute pop-up shows. There is no way in hell with my work schedule that I would have made it down there in order to even think about going. | I like when Vieux likes posts on both sides of an argument. She just loves the discourse. |
| | Post by supЯefan on Mar 14, 2022 12:04:13 GMT -5Pearl Jam May 3: San Diego (Viejas Arena)
May 6-7: Los Angeles (The Forum)
May 9: Glendale, Ariz. (Gila River Arena)
May 12-13: Oakland, Calif. (Oakland Arena)
May 16: Fresno, Calif. (Save Mart Arena)
May 18: Sacramento, Calif. (Golden 1 Center)
May 20: Las Vegas (MGM Grand Garden Arena)
Sept. 1: Quebec City, Quebec (Videotron Centre)
Sept. 3: Ottawa, Ontario (Canadien Tire Centre)
Sept. 6: Hamilton, Ontario (FirstOntario Centre)
Sept. 8: Toronto (Scotiabank Arena)
Sept. 11: New York (Madison Square Garden)
Sept. 14: Camden, N.J. (Waterfront Music Pavilion)
Sept. 16: Nashville (Bridgestone Arena)
Sept. 18: St. Louis (Enterprise Center)
Sept. 20: Oklahoma City, Okla. (Paycom Center)
Sept. 22: Denver (Ball Arena) | |
| | Post by supЯefan on Mar 14, 2022 12:13:32 GMT -5 | |
| | Post by ameeps on Mar 14, 2022 13:40:09 GMT -5Apropos of the talk about presale tickets, TM/LN's monopoly, that John Oliver segment on the ticketing industry...posting a paragraph from the Pearl Jam email that was just sent out regarding their rescheduled tour. "In order to maintain low ticket prices and fan club accessibility, we will be releasing a limited number of premium tickets to the public at market rate price at a later date." Remember when Pearl Jam used to be the good guys? They've gone from testifying against Ticketmaster in front of Congress, to using Ticketmaster for their entire ticketing operation, and enabling platinum tickets. | |
| lcpreds
Mudbather
Joined: January 2017
Posts: 529 | Post by lcpreds on Mar 14, 2022 14:01:02 GMT -5First world problem... I managed to score a pit ticket for NiN in Vegas for Thursday September 15th. We already have tickets to Pearl Jam in Nashville which is now, unfortunately for me, on Friday September 16th. We also already have tickets to The Killers in Nashville which is Saturday September 17th. Not a bad trio at all but I'm also a nervous traveler so am already having concerns about potential flight issues back home Friday AM! Will be a fantastic 3 days provided no logistical issues. | |
| | Post by LD on Mar 14, 2022 16:03:30 GMT -5Same night: Slipknot or Turnstile? Slipknot is closer distance wise. | Bonnaroo 10 11 12 21 | Newport Folk 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 22 23
Boston Calling 17 19 22 | Outside Lands 17 | Shaky Knees 22 23 | Riot Fest 23 |
| | Post by Teddy Flair on Mar 14, 2022 16:30:12 GMT -5Same night: Slipknot or Turnstile? Slipknot is closer distance wise. Turnstile, no question | |
| | Post by Teddy Flair on Mar 14, 2022 16:30:44 GMT -5Two free Wet Leg tickets for whoever can make it to Basem*nt East in Nashville by 8 tonight | |
| | Post by Vieux on Mar 14, 2022 16:31:16 GMT -5Two free Wet Leg tickets for whoever can make it to Basem*nt East in Nashville by 8 tonight Goddammit I wish. | I like when Vieux likes posts on both sides of an argument. She just loves the discourse. |
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